Really like the information provided early in a project through the schematic irrigation tools. In looking through the documentation it does not appear there is any magic or special precautions related to editing a placed irrigation zone once connected to a valve with a segment of lateral pipe. I know deleting piped equipment without using the specific "delete Piped Equipment" tools when working with emitters is a no no. What is protocol when a schematic area that is connected to a valve needs to be altered or deleted?
On a related note, is there any documentation regarding best practices from transitioning from schematic irrigation to more detailed irrigation layout (emitter and lateral system components). Should schematic layers be deleted or just frozen? Can schematic drip zones be converted into drip areas? Can lateral segments used to connect a valve to a schematic zone be extended to emitters as the design advances?
Sorry if these are dumb questions, just a bit gun-shy of practices that may result in erroneous output later in the design process.
Thank you,
On a related note, is there any documentation regarding best practices from transitioning from schematic irrigation to more detailed irrigation layout (emitter and lateral system components). Should schematic layers be deleted or just frozen? Can schematic drip zones be converted into drip areas? Can lateral segments used to connect a valve to a schematic zone be extended to emitters as the design advances?
Sorry if these are dumb questions, just a bit gun-shy of practices that may result in erroneous output later in the design process.
Thank you,
Daniel,
There are no dumb questions here! I will do my best to answer these questions.
Schematic irrigation is definitely typically used as its own file as a top level design looking down. Typically you would want to keep this separate of your other final designs just so you could go back to it at any point as needed. To make those modifications, all you would need to do is adjust the polyline boundaries as needed and use the Recalculate tool within the Schematic Irrigation dialog and the flows would adjust accordingly. You could even use the Match Properties tool in the F/X Irrigation layout tool set and it will update the color and flow to what you matched to. You could then resize your lines and the changes should be reflected as such.
You could "save as" a copy of the schematic design and use the delete station to remove the piped zones (keeping valves in place) and you would then just need to delete the schematic items separately (as they are not affected with the delete station tool). you could then place equipment as needed and use the circuiting tools to help zone your newly placed equipment. You could then simply xref in your schematic irrigation plan if needed.
If you would like to expand the design while keeping the schematic irrigation included in the zone, that should be ok as well, just make sure you are resizing the zone each time you add to things. But again, schematic should be left as its own design. turning things off or freezing layers will start to get messy for sure. Typically if you place any drip equipment on top of any other existing equipment, it will prompt you that you are trying to place onto an area already assigned. So you can choose to overwrite if you would like, but it may change things you did not mean to affect, so be careful.
Basic rule of thumb is that you should stay away from copying equipment once piped. Data is tied onto this equipment (and pipe segments for that matter) and the system might have a hard time tracking/get confused at what it is looking at if you get too crazy with changing mid stream. The delete station tool is of great help, along with tools like Match Head and Match Properties.
There are no dumb questions here! I will do my best to answer these questions.
Schematic irrigation is definitely typically used as its own file as a top level design looking down. Typically you would want to keep this separate of your other final designs just so you could go back to it at any point as needed. To make those modifications, all you would need to do is adjust the polyline boundaries as needed and use the Recalculate tool within the Schematic Irrigation dialog and the flows would adjust accordingly. You could even use the Match Properties tool in the F/X Irrigation layout tool set and it will update the color and flow to what you matched to. You could then resize your lines and the changes should be reflected as such.
You could "save as" a copy of the schematic design and use the delete station to remove the piped zones (keeping valves in place) and you would then just need to delete the schematic items separately (as they are not affected with the delete station tool). you could then place equipment as needed and use the circuiting tools to help zone your newly placed equipment. You could then simply xref in your schematic irrigation plan if needed.
If you would like to expand the design while keeping the schematic irrigation included in the zone, that should be ok as well, just make sure you are resizing the zone each time you add to things. But again, schematic should be left as its own design. turning things off or freezing layers will start to get messy for sure. Typically if you place any drip equipment on top of any other existing equipment, it will prompt you that you are trying to place onto an area already assigned. So you can choose to overwrite if you would like, but it may change things you did not mean to affect, so be careful.
Basic rule of thumb is that you should stay away from copying equipment once piped. Data is tied onto this equipment (and pipe segments for that matter) and the system might have a hard time tracking/get confused at what it is looking at if you get too crazy with changing mid stream. The delete station tool is of great help, along with tools like Match Head and Match Properties.
Daniel,
There are no dumb questions here! I will do my best to answer these questions.
Schematic irrigation is definitely typically used as its own file as a top level design looking down. Typically you would want to keep this separate of your other final designs just so you could go back to it at any point as needed. To make those modifications, all you would need to do is adjust the polyline boundaries as needed and use the Recalculate tool within the Schematic Irrigation dialog and the flows would adjust accordingly. You could even use the Match Properties tool in the F/X Irrigation layout tool set and it will update the color and flow to what you matched to. You could then resize your lines and the changes should be reflected as such.
You could "save as" a copy of the schematic design and use the delete station to remove the piped zones (keeping valves in place) and you would then just need to delete the schematic items separately (as they are not affected with the delete station tool). you could then place equipment as needed and use the circuiting tools to help zone your newly placed equipment. You could then simply xref in your schematic irrigation plan if needed.
If you would like to expand the design while keeping the schematic irrigation included in the zone, that should be ok as well, just make sure you are resizing the zone each time you add to things. But again, schematic should be left as its own design. turning things off or freezing layers will start to get messy for sure. Typically if you place any drip equipment on top of any other existing equipment, it will prompt you that you are trying to place onto an area already assigned. So you can choose to overwrite if you would like, but it may change things you did not mean to affect, so be careful.
Basic rule of thumb is that you should stay away from copying equipment once piped. Data is tied onto this equipment (and pipe segments for that matter) and the system might have a hard time tracking/get confused at what it is looking at if you get too crazy with changing mid stream. The delete station tool is of great help, along with tools like Match Head and Match Properties.
There are no dumb questions here! I will do my best to answer these questions.
Schematic irrigation is definitely typically used as its own file as a top level design looking down. Typically you would want to keep this separate of your other final designs just so you could go back to it at any point as needed. To make those modifications, all you would need to do is adjust the polyline boundaries as needed and use the Recalculate tool within the Schematic Irrigation dialog and the flows would adjust accordingly. You could even use the Match Properties tool in the F/X Irrigation layout tool set and it will update the color and flow to what you matched to. You could then resize your lines and the changes should be reflected as such.
You could "save as" a copy of the schematic design and use the delete station to remove the piped zones (keeping valves in place) and you would then just need to delete the schematic items separately (as they are not affected with the delete station tool). you could then place equipment as needed and use the circuiting tools to help zone your newly placed equipment. You could then simply xref in your schematic irrigation plan if needed.
If you would like to expand the design while keeping the schematic irrigation included in the zone, that should be ok as well, just make sure you are resizing the zone each time you add to things. But again, schematic should be left as its own design. turning things off or freezing layers will start to get messy for sure. Typically if you place any drip equipment on top of any other existing equipment, it will prompt you that you are trying to place onto an area already assigned. So you can choose to overwrite if you would like, but it may change things you did not mean to affect, so be careful.
Basic rule of thumb is that you should stay away from copying equipment once piped. Data is tied onto this equipment (and pipe segments for that matter) and the system might have a hard time tracking/get confused at what it is looking at if you get too crazy with changing mid stream. The delete station tool is of great help, along with tools like Match Head and Match Properties.
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