Tuesday, 30 January 2018
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Dear Jeremaiah,

Since yesterday i noticed that while piping i get cut pipes between the heads and the fittings as in the attached files.
Any possible reason?

Thanks
Nibal
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Dear Land F/X users,

The issue of the Cut Pipes is solved by the great Jake,
and
I would like to share with you the reason & the solution as i think it may happen with anyone of you..

IN SHORT:
It was a matter of rescaling the heads once more in the plan even the irrigation preference scaling is set from the beginning..

IN DETAILS:
what i was doing is the following:
* I set the preference irrigation symbol scaling to "for example" 0.5 in the irrigation plan.
* but what i did also after i placed the heads i needed to rescale them indvidually with the scale button to "for example" 0.7 to look smaller .. and this caused the cut pipes.

IN THE EXPLANATION OF WHAT I WAS DOING THAT CAUSED THE CUT PIPES:
Jake clarified that i was scaling down after the block has already been defined in the drawing as "1".
and this is not recommended to be done.

INSTEAD IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE SOLUTION IS TO WORK AROUND and do a BEDIT and change the scale of the nested emitter block to 0.7 and save changes following these steps:

After placing the blocks and rotating them as needed, do the following steps:

1- Select an emitter block
2- Type "Bedit" into the commandline
3- Once the block editor is open, select the emitter block
4- Type "Scale" into the commandline
5- Set the insertion point to 0,0
6- Set the scale factor to .7
7- Close the block editor and save changes.
8- Select ALL emitter blocks that are in the drawing and set the scale back to 1 (from .7) (you should only need to do this step if you are getting existing blocks corrected, any new blocks placed will be modified through the block editor)
9- Use the move piped equipment tool on each emitter to have the pipe recognize the new edge of the symbol. (you should only need to do this step if the pipes are cut away from the emitter)
These steps should be able to be applied to all existing areas that are having the same problem.
Lastly, consider changing the scale of the source blocks so you do not have to do this extra step(s) every time.
Changing the source block to 70% of the current size will then allow you to keep the Preference Set at 50% and it will be correct every time.

Nibal
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Nibal,
It seems that this is due to you converting these little segments into arcs and quite possibly the orientation of the emitter symbols. Without the actual dwg and project files it will be hard to tell you any more than this. What happens if you type "REA" into the commandline? Or use the move piped equipment tool on one of those emitters? Does the pipe connect back to the symbol? Unfortunately we are going to need more to go off of in order to help you. Please use the Tech support ticket system to send in these files, along with a full description as to what exactly you are having issues with and where, and we will get you a response once we know what is going on.
Jake,
I sent a support ticket regarding this issue..

Thanks,
Nibal
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Dear Land F/X users,

The issue of the Cut Pipes is solved by the great Jake,
and
I would like to share with you the reason & the solution as i think it may happen with anyone of you..

IN SHORT:
It was a matter of rescaling the heads once more in the plan even the irrigation preference scaling is set from the beginning..

IN DETAILS:
what i was doing is the following:
* I set the preference irrigation symbol scaling to "for example" 0.5 in the irrigation plan.
* but what i did also after i placed the heads i needed to rescale them indvidually with the scale button to "for example" 0.7 to look smaller .. and this caused the cut pipes.

IN THE EXPLANATION OF WHAT I WAS DOING THAT CAUSED THE CUT PIPES:
Jake clarified that i was scaling down after the block has already been defined in the drawing as "1".
and this is not recommended to be done.

INSTEAD IT'S RECOMMENDED THAT THE SOLUTION IS TO WORK AROUND and do a BEDIT and change the scale of the nested emitter block to 0.7 and save changes following these steps:

After placing the blocks and rotating them as needed, do the following steps:

1- Select an emitter block
2- Type "Bedit" into the commandline
3- Once the block editor is open, select the emitter block
4- Type "Scale" into the commandline
5- Set the insertion point to 0,0
6- Set the scale factor to .7
7- Close the block editor and save changes.
8- Select ALL emitter blocks that are in the drawing and set the scale back to 1 (from .7) (you should only need to do this step if you are getting existing blocks corrected, any new blocks placed will be modified through the block editor)
9- Use the move piped equipment tool on each emitter to have the pipe recognize the new edge of the symbol. (you should only need to do this step if the pipes are cut away from the emitter)
These steps should be able to be applied to all existing areas that are having the same problem.
Lastly, consider changing the scale of the source blocks so you do not have to do this extra step(s) every time.
Changing the source block to 70% of the current size will then allow you to keep the Preference Set at 50% and it will be correct every time.

Nibal
Nibal,

You've come a long way. Hey, where did you get that idea to use a root watering system and a bubbler above grade. That's a real good idea. JK. :p

Seaweed
Seaweed,

Thanks to you that i started using this after you mentioned earlier in a previous post that using both RWS & bubbler considered to be the best way to irrigate the tree..:)
and yes its really a great idea..

Nibal
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