Thursday, 03 October 2019
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I would like to make a concept plan for a client, however, with all the effort of selecting plants in the Concept Manager, I might as well just use the Plant Manager. The clients usually only want to change a couple of things anyway, so making those few changes over having to match properties to all the plants on the entire file would just save lots of time (since it would already be done). However, one problem with my plan is that the label command only puts the plant code "QUR VIR" instead of the common name "Southern Live Oak". Now I could manually type out the text with a regular Annotation or other tool, but the common name "Southern Live Oak" already is in my plant manager. Is there a tool I'm missing already created that lets us use data other than the plant code? I know we can do this with the Concept Manager, but as I said I'd like to skip some unnecessary steps.

There are several label styles available via the Plant Preferences, some of which include the Common Name.

You are also welcome to customize any of the labels to your liking.

 

--J

4 years ago
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I don't want to change my preferences as I will work with the plan codes for all of my real plans. Even the concepts will eventually be changed. But while I'm showing a concept plan to a client, I want them to be able to see the common names like you can when you set up the Concept Manager. But while working on that concept I may have to open a real plan and make a change, so adjusting the preferences would be very problematic.

So it sounds like my only option is to either use the concept manager or manually type labels. If that's the case, then can I make a suggestion of a USER Label category with Group, Single, etc. but allow us to set up on the fly (maybe from a selection list) what attribute we want to show?

You can modify the label block in the Block Editor, which will then affect only that drawing.

 

--J

4 years ago
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Are you talking about in the preferences window though? Once the concept is finished, I will change the plan to the real form and use the normal Plant Codes. So far all my messing with preferences in a file once I've already added something to the plan has only left me with a broken feature that I have to fight to fix or just live with. So I'm not really into the idea of changing a preference temporarily... lol. Or am I missing something?

Sounds like I'm just better off using the Generic Plants feature to quickly drop some symbols, annotate text labels with manual entry, and then convert it to a real plan once approved. Just a lot quicker of a process to get things done it seems with the current system... again unless I'm missing something?

One option would be to just have two Preference Sets, your standard one, and Concept.

So that way, once you are ready to transition the concept plan to a working drawing, you just change the preference set.

However, I doubt the concept plan will be completely labeled, and that you would want the working drawing labels in exactly the same places, pointing to the same plants.  So I'm struggling a bit with this workflow.  It would seem to me, that when you are ready to convert this concept plan to a working drawing, you would delete all the labels, and purge that label definition out.

Which would take us back to, simply have one preference set, and in the concept plan, use the AutoCAD Block Editor to edit the label block.  There, you can modify it to show Common name, and then label some representative plants.  Feel free to give us a call and we can walk you through this.

 

--J

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