Valves and equipment snapping to main line without rotation; don't like perpendicular orientation.

Tom,

You can correct the Backflow by editing it, click on the symbol, and then in the symbol selection dialog click on it again, click edit:
set the rotation to Manual.

It should then be rotated correctly.
For the Shut-Off Valve, the block itself needs to be corrected, with 90 degrees difference of rotation.

We will be correcting the blocks on our end, and see if we need to tweak this new feature a bit.

--J

Hi J,

Just checking up on this. I edited the backflow block to allow rotation. It almost works--it snaps to the pipe, lets me rotate it, but it always ends up off kilter, and not in line with the pipe.

I know you're working on the shut-off valves--whatever you had set up before was perfect.

Thanks!

Tom,

I'm not entirely following what you want to be different.

--J

The shut off valves used to work perfectly, now they just snap to the mainline, with the long axis of the symbol perpendicular to the pipe. I've done the symbol editing; it doesn't work, no matter whether I set it to manual or no rotation. Backflow devices will allow rotation, but don't snap to the orientation I put them. What I want is the way it was before with shut-off valves, and I'd like BF devices to do the same thing. In fact, I'd like all main line devices to do that--flow sensors, caps, QC valves, etc....

Interestingly, shut off valves will rotate to, and stay in place, to any orientation when I place them before I draw pipe. They only snap the one way to the pipe when I place them on pipe. BF devices will rotate, but always snap to their own orientation, whether placing on blank space or on pipe. QC valves don't rotate at all.

Control valves work great--they rotate and stay in place if I place them before drawing pipe; and, they snap to perfect orientation to the main if I put them on already-drawn pipe. That's nice.

So, are there LFX issues with this, or am I still the Seattle Problem Child?

Thanks, J!

Oh you're definitely the problem child.

To fix the shut off valves, you just need to edit the source blocks, and rotate them 90 degrees. Or delete the existing blocks to auto-download the new ones, which we have rotated.
The backflow may be behaving strange due to fact it has a text attribute. I'll take a look at it Monday.

--J

Hi J,

I deleted/auto-downloaded per the instructions in the Knowledge Base: no change. The behavior is exactly the same.

Tom,

We decided to rotate the shut-off valves by editing the source blocks as Jeremiah pointed out and it 'fixed' it on our end. While it no longer allows us to rotate the shut-off valve after snapping it to a mainline, the shut-off valves automatically snap along the long axis with the mainline pipe instead of along the short access regardless of the angle of the mainline. Check out the screen capture below. Anyway, since the shut-off valves now rotate automatically, it saves the 'extra' step of having to rotate them 'manually'.

Very cool! I just tried to delete/auto-download, but still no change. Should I just wait for an update?

Thanks!

Tom,

To download the revised blocks, they also need to be purged out of the drawing you are in (or test in a blank drawing where the blocks are not already defined).

--J